BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT

REGULAR MEETING

SEPTEMBER 23, 2009

 

CALL TO ORDER

The September 23, 2009, regular meeting of the Lake Havasu City Board of Adjustment was called to order by Chairman Bergen at 6:00 p.m.

 

ROLL CALL

Members Present:                     Donald Bergen, Charles Fein, Diane Klostermeier, Tony Simonis, Paula Fowler, Edward Gagnon, Sarah Markham

 

Members Absent:                     None

 

Staff Present:                            Stuart Schmeling, Senior Planner

                                                Larry Grzesiowski, Planning Technician

                                                Kelly Garry, Assistant City Attorney

                                                Jean Vinson, Recording Secretary

 

MINUTES

Mr. Fein made a motion to approve the minutes of the July 29, 2009, meeting as written. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Fowler and carried unanimously.

 

CORRESPONDENCE AND ANNOUNCEMENTS

Mr. Schmeling said he would like to welcome the newest member of the Board, Sarah Markham.

 

INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBER AND ELECTION OF OFFICERS

Mr. Bergen also welcomed the new member and noted that Mr. Fein, Mr.  Simonis and Mrs. Klostermeier were also reappointed to new terms.

 

Mr. Bergen said that according to the bylaws, election of officers is supposed to be held at the first meeting in June. He opened the meeting for nominations. Mr. Fein nominated Mr. Bergen for Chairman and Mr. Gagnon seconded the nomination. There were no further nominations for Chairman. Mr. Fein nominated Mrs. Klostermeier for Vice Chairman and Mrs. Fowler seconded the nomination. There were no further nominations for Vice Chairman. A voice vote was taken on both nominations and it was a unanimous vote for approval.

           

PUBLIC HEARING

 

10-01300004 – TRACT 2395, BLOCK 1, LOT 1; 6501 SHOWPLACE AVENUE. A REQUEST FOR A ZONING VARIANCE TO SECTION 14.38.070 TABLE 3-6 OF THE LAKE HAVASU CITY DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW FOR A PYLON SIGN TO BE 58 FEET IN HEIGHT, WHEREAS THE CODE WOULD ALLOW A FREESTANDING SIGN TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 15 FEET IN HEIGHT. ABELARDO MARTINEZ III, OWNER/ MOHAVE SIGNS, APPLICANT.

 

Mr. Grzesiowski stated that this is a request by McDonald’s asking for relief from the code to have a 58-foot pylon type sign at their new location. The code only provides for a sign of 15 feet. The property is near the new mall in the autoplex area and across from the new Toyota dealership. He showed the site plan indicating the location of the proposed sign. The base of the sign will be at approximately 709 feet elevation with the highway at 730 feet. He showed a picture of the proposed sign. The site is considerably below the highway and is not completely flat. Recently, the Board approved a variance for the Toyota sign at 35 feet on one side of their property and at 24 feet on the other corner. The mall, Home Depot, Lowe’s, Nissan and Chrysler all obtained exceptions/variances for their signs. The exceptions/variances were based on the height of the highway and the speed of traffic. He noted that the sign code was written for the city itself where speeds are generally around 35 mph and the highway has a speed limit of 55 mph; therefore, the code might not apply as well on the highway. Some of the existing signs were also granted exceptions through the planned development process. In response to questions, Mr. Grzesiowski said that this site was not part of a planned development and therefore had to apply for a variance. He showed a list of the sign heights for the businesses in the area that had received variances.

 

There was some discussion about the signs, the topography of the parcels and their distance below or above the highway. Mr. Bergen asked about the Toyota signs of 35 and 24 feet and noted that this sign is proposed at 58 feet. Mr. Grzesiowski said that is correct. Mrs. Fowler said she has a concern about allowing this sign to be taller than the other signs. Mr. Grzesiowski said that is the decision the Board will have to make; the applicant is asking for 58 feet and staff is recommending 35 feet which would be approximately 15 feet above the highway.  

 

Mrs. Klostermeier said that she had called Mr. Schmeling to find out how this proposed height would relate to other properties in the same area and he indicated that he might have a form where the Board could see the differentiation. She looked at the area and wondered if this sign would not conform to the rest of the properties. Mr. Schmeling said that staff based its recommendation on what they felt was the most appropriate height for the area. Staff listed examples of different sign heights; however, staff felt the most appropriate comparison would be the mall and the Toyota sign which was allowed at 35 feet and is at a similar elevation. Staff does not recommend the full 58 feet.

 

Mr. Fein asked about the pole sign. Mr. Grzesiowski noted that the photo is what the applicant is asking for, but staff has already told him that a pole sign is not allowed and the sign design will have to be changed.

 

Mr. Mark Durham, 37357 Buckskin Circle, Parker, said he is here on behalf of the applicant. He brought a hand out and distributed it. He asked staff if the 35 feet is from the lot or from the highway. Mr. Schmeling said that is from the grade of the lot. Mr. Durham said that the lot is 21 to 23 feet below the highway. They are asking for a sign 30 to 35 feet above the highway and they came to that number by viewing the signs of the other properties along the highway frontage. They would like to be consistent with those signs for visibility from the highway. He explained the photos that he handed out and noted especially that the Home Depot sign is about 35 feet above the highway. The proposed sign was designed based upon what already exists along the highway, and they do understand that the code limits signs to 15 feet. However, 15 feet would not get this sign even to the top of the highway level. The 35 feet recommended by staff is not sufficient, in his opinion, for a highway-frontage property.

 

Mr. Fein asked how far off the highway will the sign be. Mr. Durham said the setback is 50 feet and would align with all of the other signs along the highway. Mr. Fein said that 58 feet would be about 35 feet above the highway.

 

Mrs. Fowler noted that she can see the Toyota sign from the highway and it is 35 feet high. 

 

Mr. Dennis Watts, with McDonald’s Corporation, 3604 Amish Ave., Las Vegas, NV, said the significant differences between McDonald’s and the Toyota dealer is that Toyota is a destination location; they do not have information that the customer needs to see on their sign. His customers typically decide to go to McDonald’s within a three-minute window and typically, over 50 percent decide within a 90-second window. People know they are going to a vehicle dealership in advance. This sign will be providing information on gas pricing and it will need to be visible for someone to read at highway speeds. The vehicles need to know in advance that there is a McDonald’s and a gas station so that they can make safe lane changes. He has discovered through many studies that their customers need to have this information about 25 to 30 seconds before the intersection. That window gives the customers enough time to see over the car in front of them before they get to the intersection. The sign they are proposing would be the same height as the Home Depot sign. The Lowe’s sign is significantly taller. All of the other signs are in the same window for height. The mall sign is at a much higher grade than the McDonald’s property and this sign would be slightly taller than that. The Nissan dealer is on the high side of the road and the base of their sign is already higher than the highway. He is only hoping to get visibility for the customers of McDonald’s and to get visibility on the gas prices for Chevron.

 

Mr. Simonis asked if the applicant’s sign will be higher than the mall’s sign. Mr. Watts said that is correct; the height of the sign they are requesting would put the sign up where people could read it.

 

There was some discussion about the surrounding signs, their heights, the topography of their lots, etc. Mr. Watts said their intention is to be significantly lower than the businesses on the high side of the highway and similar to Home Depot.

 

Mrs. Garry asked the Board to focus on this property and not on the other signs which are located in different lot with different slopes. This property is in a hole and unfortunately, there are no good pictures from the highway to show that hole. Most of us have driven by and know that there is a big difference between where this property is located and across the street. Make sure the discussion focuses on this actual property.

 

Mr. Watts said if it would be clearer, he could refer to 35 feet above the height of the highway and if that were granted, he would be absolutely fine with that.

 

Mr. Bergen opened the meeting to the public. No one spoke.

 

Mr. Grzesiowski stated that staff finds that the subject property is lying approximately 20 feet below the highway and thus creates a hardship which is not self-imposed. Other retailers on the Highway 95 corridor have had similar topographical issues and have been awarded additional height allowances; therefore, the granting of a variance would not constitute the awarding of a special privilege. The granting of the variance would not have an adverse affect of adjacent properties at a height of 35 feet and modified to be a pylon-type sign because the code prohibits pole signs. Based on these findings, the Development Review Committee recommends that 10-01300004 be approved with the following conditions: 1. The sign shall be modified to be a pylon-type sign with a pole cover to be a minimum of 7 feet in width as the sign code prohibits pole-type signs. 2. The height of the sign shall not exceed the 35 feet allowed for the free-standing sign at the Anderson Toyota/Scion Car Dealership.

 

Mr. Gagnon asked if anyone has checked with the FAA for their requirements of height around the airport. Mr. Grzesiowski said that came up in regard to a flag pole which will be much higher than these signs. There is no problem with any of the signs in the area.

 

Mrs. Klostermeier asked staff, in driving along the highway with the 90-second visibility, is that ample time to see the sign at 35 feet. Mr. Grzesiowski said he has no data on visibility at certain speeds.

 

Mrs. Fowler made a motion that 10-01300004 be approved with the following conditions: the sign shall be modified to be a pylon-type sign with the pole cover to be a minimum of 7 feet in width as the sign code prohibits pole-type signs, and the height of the sign shall not exceed 35 feet allowed for free-standing signs. Mrs. Klostermeier seconded the motion. Mr. Bergen asked if Mrs. Fowler would add to her motion how the property lies. Mrs. Fowler added that the property lying below the highway creates a hardship.

 

A voice vote was taken with a member voting no; therefore, a roll-call vote was taken and the motion carried on a vote of 6 to 1 with Mr. Fein voting no.

 

DISCUSSION ITEMS

 

MEETING DATES AND TIMES

 

Mr. Grzesiowski said that staff understood at the last meeting that the Board wished to discuss its meeting times and dates and possibly return the meetings back to daytime.

 

Mr. Bergen said he feels that the evening meetings probably offer more opportunity for people who work during the day to come to the meeting. He added that Colorado Springs has no trouble getting people to attend evening meetings. Mrs. Fowler said she agrees that evening meetings are best because more people can get involved. Mrs. Klostermeier also agreed that evening meetings are far better because there is more citizen participation in things that are going on in the City. Mr. Fein also agreed.

 

Mr. Grzesiowski said that would mean no change in the meeting times and dates.

 

Mr. Bergen said he handed out a sheet at the beginning of the meeting on the procedure for making motions. It is not an agenda item, so it cannot be discussed. He asked for it to be on the agenda for the next meeting. He has worked with the City Attorney’s office on this to make sure the Board is doing things legally.

 

Mr. Simonis said that at the meeting that was held to allow the Chairman to sign the windmill letter, it was reported in the paper that there were two votes, one re-affirming the other one, and that was not what happened. The paper reported it to read that the Board re-affirmed that twice. He and Mrs. Klostermeier tried to make clear that the meeting was not for re-affirming the vote; this is strictly to allow the Chairman to sign the letter. Since there is a representative from the paper in attendance, there should be a retraction or correction on that because the Board did not vote twice to take down the windmill. Mr. Bergen concurred and Mrs. Klostermeier thanked Mr. Simonis for bringing that up. Mr. Bergen added that the minutes of the meeting will stand.

 

CALL TO PUBLIC

 

Mr. Durham said he understands and appreciates the Board’s job, but the term “consistency” was brought up during the discussion. That is all he wanted to do: to be consistent with what is already established in the area for signs. In an effort to bring business to this town, these are the kinds of things that make a difference to that. He would like the Board to look at that in the future. He is going to see if there is a way to re-approach this.

 

Mr. Steve McComis, Mohave Signs, said he does not know if the Board realizes that a 35-foot sign from the grade will not even allow people to read the prices. That would be below the highway grade. Home Depot is 50 feet. Anderson Toyota was an existing sign that was moved from Kingman.

 

Mr. Bergen said the Board is not permitted to respond during call to the public.

 

FUTURE MEETING

Mr. Grzesiowski said there are no items for future meetings.

 

ADJOURNMENT

The meeting was adjourned at 6: 50 p.m.

 

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Donald Bergen, Chairman

 

 

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Jean Vinson, Recording Secretary